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Great convo Bill. Really enjoyable and will be useful to pass around. Great to see Jesse really pushing the truth. Unfortunate that it seems as one voice crops up another disappears with Charles seemingly having a change of heart. Very bizarre phone call. Iv watched quite a few of his videos. There is no form to what the q and a takes or what subjects are off limits. He has made up a rule specifically for you and Christine. He could start by shutting the old Irish doctor up that comes on every few episodes and declares quite angrily that "viruses exist because Iv got sick for years after seeing patients!!", if he really wanted to censor the discussion!

I guess the silver lining is its a sure sign you are over the target. Whoever is in Charles ear I can assume is saying the guests are uncomfortable answering these questions. Like I have said for a long time now, if the no virus position is as ridiculous as some would lead you to believe, it should be all the more easy to answer simple questions and kick you to the curb. The fact they cannot answer simple straight forward questions speaks volumes.

PS I would love to know if you sent to email you speak about in the phone call and how it was received.

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Thx Nick!

> PS I would love to know if you sent to email you speak about in the phone call and how it was received.

There were many back-and-forth emails. I may publish them, but it's so many it's hard to follow. Anyway you know the essential details. Charles abusive to me, lied about it later, and told both Christine Massey and I that there would be no ban, then banned us anyway. The guy seems a little schizo, erratic, irrational, goes against his word. Hypocrite. He seems deeply conflicted or something. Maybe he's OD'ing on CBD oil. No idea what his issue is.

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💥 flash 💥

Team Kennedy

Mr. Kennedy will meet with leading critics of prevailing health policy including Dr. Joe Mercola, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Patrick Gentempo, Maureen McDonnell, Del Bigtree, Mikki Willis and others...

I notice none are participating in The End of Covid.

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Jeff, I don't think the question should be, "Why aren't these notorious Virus Pushers(*) participating in The End of COVID?"

The question should be, "Why are the Novirus experts consistently excluded from every big event organized by gatekeepers like Bigtree, CHD/Kennedy, Clay Clark, WCH, etc etc etc.??"

* PS, there are a bunch of virus pushers participating in TEOC. So far, I count Todd Callendar, Larry Palevsky, Lee Merritt, John Beaudoin, ... and the WORST: Henry Ealy, who's been on Twitter insulting all of the no-viris people.

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Yep. You’re right.

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I don’t see Buttar. Was he deleted from the Virus Pushers Against Clotshots page?

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Yeah, it was an oversight. I just added him. Thx.

I think I was unsure for a long time where he really stood. But yeah, he's another one who questioned the Pandemic, but not the virus. How does that work? Lots and lots and lots of people are in the camp. Strangest damn thing.

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And now Gleam Greenwald is gonna post a video that’s anti-RFK, Jr.

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Now we think of them as VPAC.

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He was in the Disinformation Dozen who somehow later became the leaders of the Health Freedom.

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Excellent appearance, Will!

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Do you have a cheat sheet for the key terms to look for in the methods section? That would help many of us who want to help fight this battle.

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Look for any of these: Vero (monkey kidney) cells, A549 Human Lung cancer cells, Fetal Bovine Serum, Viral Growth Medium, Viral Transport Medium. Those probably cover 95% of all cases. In Sam Bailey's most recent video (just released this morning) she talks about a cell line of human fetal tissue, but I don't remember what it's called. EDIT: WI-38, MRC-5, and IMR-90 are all Human Fetal Lung Tissue.

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Thank you for posting the transcript of your TNT interview and for fighting the virus fraud.

My only quibble is about a different virus: "you and I." You write, "[Kovess] threatened to ban Christine Massey and I[.]" No! It's "ban Massey and me"! So many people around me make that case mistake that I am finding the bug in my speech. In writing, I usually notice it in time -- so far.

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Ugh. Ok I fixed it.

I'm normally good with basic grammar... although I find I make certain errors when initially writing which I normally catch on a proofread.

But this one seems to by my brain wired incorrectly! My brain seems to think "he threatened to ban she and I from the calls" SOUNDS correct, but you're correct: that clause requires the objective form. Thx.

(grammar cop!)

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grammar cop: the only good cop!

Grammarians call the "between you and I" a hypercorrect form, a result of people being told off for saying "John and me went to the store," being told that it should be, "John and I", and then overgeneralizing that replacement everywhere.

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Regarding the list: what about Jon Rappaport, James Corbett and Dr. Ana M. (she claims the nano crap is being shed or from “cloud seeding”).

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There are several lists mentioned in this article. Can I assume you are talking about "Virus Pushers Against Clotshots"?

👉Jon Rappaport: He's on the "Good List": http://apocalypticyoga.wikidot.com/team-no-virus

👉James Corbett: He's on the "non-committal/silent" section of the Bad List: http://apocalypticyoga.wikidot.com/virus-pushers-against-clotshots

👉Dr. Ana M.: I have no idea who she is. Can you post a/some link(s) that I can review?

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James Corbett and Whitney Webb are now regulars on CHD.

Jon Rappaport is on a RFK, Jr. rampage using emotional tactics and claiming the fall of the middle class is the most important issue while ignoring Kennedy’s pro virus, safe & effective injections. After months of low activity he’s as prolific as ever pushing people to support Kennedy without mention of Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

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Yeah, it's disgusting, isn't it.

I'm working on a LONG thing about Bobby. I should include this Bobby Sychopancy by people like Rapporport, Celia Farber, Mark Crispin Miller, Cindy Sheehan, OMG get a room.

This guy has been lying about viruses for 2 years nonstop. And ALL OF THESE PEOPLE are just giving him a FREE PASS. It makes me so angry.

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The emotional manipulation is next level. Rappoport's substack articles were getting ever crazier and turning into political rants rather than investigative journalism (which he was really good at). They've now devolved further into abusive scolding -- "Grow up! Either you're with RFK Jr. or you're a petulant child."

Speaking of that species of emotional manipulation, Denis Rancourt has started too: "Please folks, stop pestering me about 'no virus'. As I already said: I am working on this. It is more complex than the simple "not isolated" and "not demonstrably infectious" narratives that are repeated ad nauseum. When I am ready, I will write a report of my findings." https://twitter.com/denisrancourt/status/1649243292427583491

"Pestering"? "Ad nauseum"? He sounds like a parent talking to a whiny toddler, who will get a candy "when [Denis] is ready" and not before.

Thus, Bill might need another category within the VPAC list: "Running out the clock."

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> "Running out the clock."

I LOVE IT!

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Yes, the virus pushers against clot shots list.

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She’s frequently talking with Karen Kingston and a Australian doctor Nixon.

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Kingston is a virus/bio weapon pusher.

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Thx. Can you give me a link and a specific quote which indicates what list she should be on? Thx.

People are asking for short bios on each entry. It's a lot of work. If people could help collect this info, that would be great.

I really was hoping that I could open this up as a wiki to allow a team to edit this, but I an unfortunate experience with a well-meaning editor, which ultimately vandalized various pages in major ways (alphabetized by FIRST name, not last), which took a lot of time to untangle. So I'm back to the sole editor.

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Maybe she’s only guilty by association. I asked about her because I’m suspicious. Is it just a coincidence she’s a doctor offering expensive chelation treatments to detox metals and nano crap? Why are none of the trustworthy folks talking about it. Fishy.

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I've never heard of her. I'll add her to the list of people I need to evaluate. Thanks for the suggestion. Again, if you find anything really specific which indicates what list someone should be on, that is most helpful. Thx

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One more: Catherine Austin Fitts was featured on CHD scolding and gaslighting anyone questioning viruses and virology.

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> One more: Catherine Austin Fitts was featured on CHD scolding and gaslighting anyone questioning viruses and virology.

Jeff, why are you bring CAF to my attention?

This is not really helpful for two reasons:

1: Please don't just drop me a name. TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH THAT NAME! I run several lists. e.g., say, "Bill, please add CAF to the VPAC list, because she says <this> at this link: <URL>".

Otherwise I have to spend a lot of effort trying to do the research to figure out what you are trying to say.

And here is the 2nd reason why this is not ideal for me:

2: If you made a specific request like I state above, I would presume that BEFORE ASKING ME to add CAF to the Naughty (VPAC) list, that YOU WOULD FIRST CHECK TO SEE IF SHE WAS ALREADY ON THE LIST OR NOT.

In fact, she has been on the naughty list for a while:

http://apocalypticyoga.wikidot.com/virus-pushers-against-clotshots

Try to imagine that you are not the only one doing this. I get really dozens of such requests.

I really appreciate the suggestions from people, but PLEASE SAVE ME THE EFFORT!

Tell me:

1: The person's name

2: What list they should be on

3: A link which supports your request,

and lastly,

4: PLEASE CHECK FIRST to make sure you are not asking me to do work that has already been done.

Thank you!

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Sorry.

Thanks for the explanation and helping me to understand. I’ll do better from now on.

Thanks for compiling the list. This effort is important.

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I'm sorry if I was jumpy.

I just get this all the time: a request to add someone who is already on the list. It annoys me. Sorry for jumping on you. I really need help with the list. I want help. But sometimes the help just creates more work for me.

I want to try to train people who want to contribute, the kind of feedback that's most helpful.

Come to think of it, I should add this as a page to the site.

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I’ll try to help. I know how systems can get out of hand.

Keep up the good work. You’re making a difference and I’m grateful.

God bless you🙏

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but the vaccines are okay right?? i mean we get so many of them ... you are not antivaccines are you??

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> but the vaccines are okay right?

Where the hell did I ever say that?

>i mean we get so many of them

Sorry, "WE"!?

I haven't had a vaccine since 1982, and will NEVER take any ever again.

Maybe YOU get so many of them. But don't lump me into your delusion.

> you are not antivaccines are you??

I try not to define myself "Anti-" anything.

But vaccines DO NOT WORK. They are based on a flawed disease model.

Here's the deal: I DO NOT FOCUS on Vaccines (which is a SYMPTOM of the COVID hoax).

I choose to focus on ROOT CAUSES.

If you want Vaccine Talk, "Clotshots are Bad!", "Died Suddenly News", etc, try Del Bigtree, RFK Jr, Naomi Wolf, Steve Kirsch, Robert Malone, Karen Kingston, Peter McCullough, Sasha Latypova, Katherine Watt, Mark Crispin Miller, or any of the other ~200 "Virus Pushers Against Clotshots" I have identified here: http://apocalypticyoga.wikidot.com/virus-pushers-against-clotshots

Pandelis, you posted this TROLL comment <1 min after I posted the article. WHY DON'T YOU actually LISTEN to the show, and try leaving an intelligent comment, instead of trolling me?

Thanks

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no problem bill, you are most welcome.

many people got vaccinated because had to keep their jobs even if were not sure in taking vaccines. you got to understand and respect that too. i listen to your podcast and it was good. mr. kaufman has made similar points since a few years ago, so i am familiar but not an expert on these issues.

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> many people got vaccinated because had to keep their jobs even if were not sure in taking vaccines. you got to understand and respect that too

Yeah, so? What's your point?

I really have no idea what you are trying to say, nor how your comment is connected to my post.

> i listen to your podcast

You certainly didn't listen, because the podcast is 1 hr. and you posted your troll comment ~1min after I posted this.

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true many got vaxxed, we all either are vaxxed or have family and loved ones vaxxed. the main thing is what can these people do to help themselves even if they dont know yet they are in trouble ... plus there is shedding for everyone else.

just saying there is no virus, is not very helpful to since their damage comes from the vaccine, plus shedding will get the rest of the unvaxxed.

you requested a spike protein document. i am no expert ... here is something you might want to consider. he is referring to others as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEE5OfiVS7o

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> true many got vaxxed, we all either are vaxxed or have family and loved ones vaxxed.

Yes of course. Again, vaccines are not my focus. I am working at stopping all vaccines by working on root causes.

> plus there is shedding

There you go again, pushing contagion theory, infectious particles. Oh boy.

My colleagues and I have actually read the foundational papers in virology, and "germ theory" going back 150 years.

There is ZERO evidence in the entire cannon of scientific literature of any paper (using legitimate methods) demonstrating a transmissible, infectious, disease-causing particle. I don't care if you are talking about a Bacteria, Virus, Mold, Fungus, Infectious Clone, DOD Bioweapon, Digital Chimera, or Metagenomic, Gain of Funtion, Lab-leaked Monkey Business.

If you DO HAVE such evidence, please send it along, b/c my colleagues and I would be very excited to see it!

>just saying there is no virus, is not very helpful

Pointing to the ROOT CAUSES is "not very helpful"?

HAHAHA.

As a technologist with a 35 year career troubleshooting problems in systems of great complexity, let's just say I strongly disagree!

I am looking for a PAPER, not a youtube video. If you're claiming that John Campbell is citing a scientific paper, then give me the actual paper and not a video.

PS: John Campbell is a notorious Virus Pusher. He is not any authority that I cite, if after 3 years of this, he's still confused about such a basic detail.

OK, granted. Not everyone can BE a Stefan Lanka, Tom Cowan, Andrew Kaufman, Mark or Sam Bailey, Amandha Vollmer, etc. the people who figured this all out early on. So we won't fault him for not being the first out of the gate.

However, John Campbell and I both LIVE IN THE SAME WORLD as Dr Kaufman, etc., After 3+ years, he MUST HAVE encountered the research of these people before now.

If John Campbell has encountered the work of Andrew Kaufman before now (and he CERTAINLY must have), YET IS STILL CONFUSED about Fake Viruses, then he's a JUNIOR. He's a Dumbass. He does not deserve our respect or our attention.

Forget about John Campbell, and just send me a paper, using legitimate methods and controls, demonstrating that the "Spike Protein" belonging to Sars-Cov-2 exists, or that the vaccines contain "Spike Protein" or that the shots trick our bodies to produce "spike protein". Any or all of those questions I posted before.

If you don't have any paper supporting your claims, than I would prefer not to be reading about your MYTHICAL viruses, coated with mythical spike proteins, which cause Mythical non-distinguishing syndromes, via mythical disease vectors (like shedding).

thx

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