Bill, talk is cheap and I only wish I had money, but the situation is quite similar here.
Still, I would like to express my esteem and gratitude for your work even if it won't last much longer.
Can you get out of the rat's nest called NYC? Your ability to put up with it for so long proves your resilience. I wouldn't have lasted three months during the tyranny there...
Poornima Wagh is a fraud. Everything she said was manufactured, and unverifiable, her credentials, her story about the FBI raid of her lab, her teacher who went missing. NOTHING checked out. We had a volunteer team of at least a dozen researchers on several continents investigating her for months.
As I documented in my Substack, it appears the Poornima Wagh story, "I have 2 PhDs, one in virology, and one in immunology, and we tested 1500 samples and found no COVID" had its origins dating back to November 2020, when it was first leaked anonymously, and then read by Patrick Gunnels, and shared by apparently unconnected 3rd parties, but falsely identified as "Derrick Knauss" or "Dr Robert Oswald".
Wagh is also a member of a bizarre religious cult ("World Improvement Through The Spirit Ministries", or WITTS) which believes they (the cult members) were destined to rule the world, by virtue of their superior intellect and benevolence, and gift humanity with technology to save us from ourselves. I am not kidding! cf. https://www.witts.ws
And you can keep on going deeper, deeper.
You can get lost in the Patrick Gunnels story.
Try to find "Dr. Derek Knauss". What a rabbit hole!!!
Knauss appears to be fictional. Fictional Dr. Knauss is associated with a DIFFERENT religious cult, this one even more bizarre. It's called Prepare For Change, aka, the New Society Conference. They seem connected to the Vatican??? It's literally a UFO Doomsday Cult. The follow some guru named COBRA. They are saving food and preparing for "The Event" (sounds like Biblical rapture??) when the UFOs will return and save us, or some shit.
I don't know what any of that is all about, but in my decades of activism, I have seen MANY Public Relations campaigns funded by Industrial Actors with $Billions in Market Cap, infiltrating and attacking legitimate grassroots activists and campaigns, in order to DIVIDE, DISABLE, and SUBVERT the group (or its individuals), throw shade on, and sow FEAR, UNCERTAINTY and DOUBT about these people and groups and their message.
I don't know for sure, but this entire Poornima Wagh affair seems to be a VERY sophisticated Public Relations campaign, which spanned almost 2 years.
Eric Coppolino said it best. Poornima Wagh was a ticking Time Bomb, an apparent torpedo to take down the #TeamNoVirus leaders, to discredit their message, and to stain them with a MASSIVE FRAUD with connections to a UFO Doomsday Cult. WTF.
Poornima Wagh was a fraud. We didn't say unkind things about her. We simple showed the proof that she is not whom she says she is. No one "treated her like dirt."
Poornima brought this all upon herself by perpetrating this massive fraud. FOR WHAT PURPOSE!? Someone ask her why she did this? What was her motives? Who was paying her? Who else was involved?
She posed a threat to the TRUTH, and to the brave leaders who have done all of the research. We took her out swiftly, with compassion and dispassion. I think I can speak for the group when I say that NONE of us bear her any ill will. We just could not allow her to stain what we are doing with her bizarre made-up stories. THAT IS NOT HELPFUL.
Sorry to see this. If I had the means, I would donate. Hopefully some people will see this and come through. You do good and important reporting, a rare thing.
Hi Bill, I hope my email found you the other day. Have sent what little i have spare.
I dont wanna sling mud as i appreciate the work everyone on team no virus has done, but surely there are 3 or 4 of the team that seem to be doing alright that could sling you (and Christine for that matter) some cash. Just saying!
I have no idea the financial status of the rest of "the team", but I don't think people have as much surplus that you might imagine. I think everyone who is doing public service work has been struggling to survive for the last 3 years. It's not easy being a truth-teller.
Anyway, I would never ask the leadership for money. They are already doing enough. I feel it is my job to support and promote *them*!
There are people with cash, and there are people who do the work, and they are not necessarily the same people. My job, for the next 2 weeks is to reach the people who do have money.
I'm really targeting my local community who have known my work for the last 25 years.
Cool. And fair enough. I would hope you wouldn't have to solicit funds from the couple of team members with large subscriber bases and / or sizable ecommerce sites, and that they would chip in of their own volition. Just a thought anyway. I just emailed you re fees if you wanna reply. Go well.
So the people who have given of themselves for free, endlessly for the last 3 years, are now responsible for paying the rent of people who voluntarily share their content? Wow.
I'm sorry I don't mean to sound mean spirited. As I say I love and appreciate all the work the whole team has done. I'm not talking about obligation. Just saying a couple of the team seem to be pretty financial stable to say the least and could help with little burden to themselves. I would have thought they might of their own volition. That's not being responsible for someone it's just helping cause you want to. I'm not here to sow discord though so forget I mentioned it!
First of all you can't judge people based on how things might seem to you.
Next, this is not how I operate. I have done public service work for over 25 years. I make it a habit never raise money FROM the people whom I am working FOR.
Traditionally there are two types of beneficiaries of my work. If we look at my work with the oil and gas industry, these groups might be a characterized as a) victims of the oil and gas industry, like people with contaminated water supplies, and b) the leaders of the movement, like Dr Sandra Steingraber, Dr Tony Ingraffea, Dr Bob Howarth, Helen and David Slottje, etc.
I work for the victims who have suffered harms at the hands of this industry, and I work for the experts who are leading the movement.
I always make my work available for free and make it available, not quite in the public domain, but with a very liberal Creative Commons license.
I do my fundraising separately. I find it keeps my work more pure. What I want to avoid at all costs is doing anything close to "work for hire", where I am taking money from the beneficiaries of my work. I want no part of that! IMHO, it is a potentially corrupting influence.
Fair enough, again to both of you its just my thoughts off the top of my head. No disrespect intended to any parties. Easy to write down the thoughts and hit submit without much consideration to all the angles. The age of the keyboard warrior! Did i mention i appreciate the efforts of the whole team?! :-)
Bill, talk is cheap and I only wish I had money, but the situation is quite similar here.
Still, I would like to express my esteem and gratitude for your work even if it won't last much longer.
Can you get out of the rat's nest called NYC? Your ability to put up with it for so long proves your resilience. I wouldn't have lasted three months during the tyranny there...
Thanks Ray.
I live in Endicott, Broome Co. Not NYC.
Let's keep in touch.
Ouch. My bad...
bill - good to hear you will be all set with social security in couple of months. it is not as difficult. you will be fine, you are a fighter.
Karma is a B! You treat people like Poornima Wagh like dirt (for NO reason) life has a way of giving it back to you!
Poornima Wagh is a fraud. Everything she said was manufactured, and unverifiable, her credentials, her story about the FBI raid of her lab, her teacher who went missing. NOTHING checked out. We had a volunteer team of at least a dozen researchers on several continents investigating her for months.
As I documented in my Substack, it appears the Poornima Wagh story, "I have 2 PhDs, one in virology, and one in immunology, and we tested 1500 samples and found no COVID" had its origins dating back to November 2020, when it was first leaked anonymously, and then read by Patrick Gunnels, and shared by apparently unconnected 3rd parties, but falsely identified as "Derrick Knauss" or "Dr Robert Oswald".
Wagh is also a member of a bizarre religious cult ("World Improvement Through The Spirit Ministries", or WITTS) which believes they (the cult members) were destined to rule the world, by virtue of their superior intellect and benevolence, and gift humanity with technology to save us from ourselves. I am not kidding! cf. https://www.witts.ws
And you can keep on going deeper, deeper.
You can get lost in the Patrick Gunnels story.
Try to find "Dr. Derek Knauss". What a rabbit hole!!!
Knauss appears to be fictional. Fictional Dr. Knauss is associated with a DIFFERENT religious cult, this one even more bizarre. It's called Prepare For Change, aka, the New Society Conference. They seem connected to the Vatican??? It's literally a UFO Doomsday Cult. The follow some guru named COBRA. They are saving food and preparing for "The Event" (sounds like Biblical rapture??) when the UFOs will return and save us, or some shit.
You think I'm making this up!!!?
https://prepareforchange.net/author/knaussdr/
http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2013/03/cobra-new-society-conference-in-rome.html
I don't know what any of that is all about, but in my decades of activism, I have seen MANY Public Relations campaigns funded by Industrial Actors with $Billions in Market Cap, infiltrating and attacking legitimate grassroots activists and campaigns, in order to DIVIDE, DISABLE, and SUBVERT the group (or its individuals), throw shade on, and sow FEAR, UNCERTAINTY and DOUBT about these people and groups and their message.
I don't know for sure, but this entire Poornima Wagh affair seems to be a VERY sophisticated Public Relations campaign, which spanned almost 2 years.
Eric Coppolino said it best. Poornima Wagh was a ticking Time Bomb, an apparent torpedo to take down the #TeamNoVirus leaders, to discredit their message, and to stain them with a MASSIVE FRAUD with connections to a UFO Doomsday Cult. WTF.
Poornima Wagh was a fraud. We didn't say unkind things about her. We simple showed the proof that she is not whom she says she is. No one "treated her like dirt."
Poornima brought this all upon herself by perpetrating this massive fraud. FOR WHAT PURPOSE!? Someone ask her why she did this? What was her motives? Who was paying her? Who else was involved?
She posed a threat to the TRUTH, and to the brave leaders who have done all of the research. We took her out swiftly, with compassion and dispassion. I think I can speak for the group when I say that NONE of us bear her any ill will. We just could not allow her to stain what we are doing with her bizarre made-up stories. THAT IS NOT HELPFUL.
You're a fraud and you are insane!
Thanks for engaging, even if was just to hurl insults and hate my way.
May you and all beings be happy and free from suffering!
Sorry to see this. If I had the means, I would donate. Hopefully some people will see this and come through. You do good and important reporting, a rare thing.
Best of luck, buddy, with raising the money. I did my little bit, hopefully lots of little bits will add up.
Hi Bill, I hope my email found you the other day. Have sent what little i have spare.
I dont wanna sling mud as i appreciate the work everyone on team no virus has done, but surely there are 3 or 4 of the team that seem to be doing alright that could sling you (and Christine for that matter) some cash. Just saying!
Thanks Nick.
I have no idea the financial status of the rest of "the team", but I don't think people have as much surplus that you might imagine. I think everyone who is doing public service work has been struggling to survive for the last 3 years. It's not easy being a truth-teller.
Anyway, I would never ask the leadership for money. They are already doing enough. I feel it is my job to support and promote *them*!
There are people with cash, and there are people who do the work, and they are not necessarily the same people. My job, for the next 2 weeks is to reach the people who do have money.
I'm really targeting my local community who have known my work for the last 25 years.
Cool. And fair enough. I would hope you wouldn't have to solicit funds from the couple of team members with large subscriber bases and / or sizable ecommerce sites, and that they would chip in of their own volition. Just a thought anyway. I just emailed you re fees if you wanna reply. Go well.
So the people who have given of themselves for free, endlessly for the last 3 years, are now responsible for paying the rent of people who voluntarily share their content? Wow.
I'm sorry I don't mean to sound mean spirited. As I say I love and appreciate all the work the whole team has done. I'm not talking about obligation. Just saying a couple of the team seem to be pretty financial stable to say the least and could help with little burden to themselves. I would have thought they might of their own volition. That's not being responsible for someone it's just helping cause you want to. I'm not here to sow discord though so forget I mentioned it!
Nick, a couple of points:
First of all you can't judge people based on how things might seem to you.
Next, this is not how I operate. I have done public service work for over 25 years. I make it a habit never raise money FROM the people whom I am working FOR.
Traditionally there are two types of beneficiaries of my work. If we look at my work with the oil and gas industry, these groups might be a characterized as a) victims of the oil and gas industry, like people with contaminated water supplies, and b) the leaders of the movement, like Dr Sandra Steingraber, Dr Tony Ingraffea, Dr Bob Howarth, Helen and David Slottje, etc.
I work for the victims who have suffered harms at the hands of this industry, and I work for the experts who are leading the movement.
I always make my work available for free and make it available, not quite in the public domain, but with a very liberal Creative Commons license.
I do my fundraising separately. I find it keeps my work more pure. What I want to avoid at all costs is doing anything close to "work for hire", where I am taking money from the beneficiaries of my work. I want no part of that! IMHO, it is a potentially corrupting influence.
Fair enough, again to both of you its just my thoughts off the top of my head. No disrespect intended to any parties. Easy to write down the thoughts and hit submit without much consideration to all the angles. The age of the keyboard warrior! Did i mention i appreciate the efforts of the whole team?! :-)