I want to believe there are no viruses. I think I’m sort of stuck in the middle. I see the logic and the arguments make sense. But I don’t know how to get out of what I “know” and live consistently with the idea. Like my vaccine, it has taken years and lots of research to change my position. Slowly I see what’s real and make changes. So I’ll keep reading and considering and being open minded.
At this point I am can say that I think the evidence is lacking for an entity Sars-Cov-2 as a viral pathogen, the stuff I have read and understood at any rate. I think that there is a difference between the phenomenon of contagion or the appearance of this phenomenon and if a particle exists or can be generated in the lab. Whatever structures virologists are making or cultivating in the lab might be real entities, but the properties of being infectious have not been established based on the papers I have read.
I am not sure contagion cannot exist, or that it does not exist, but the lab experiments haven't demonstrated it. I have been trained in the germ theory paradigm so maybe I'm biased still, but am trying to keep an open mind and not be closed from seeing other perspectives. Science should be about discovery and collaboration.
Wonderful article and references. I do concur with Ray Horvath that Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic, not an insecticide. Editing that statement would remove a point that people could point to and call your other data "wrong" as well. Sharing!
The official narrative is false and its terminology must not be used, because it confirms it even by the "opposition."
Still, aligning the history of the Rockefellerian "Medicine" with the last two years of new developments that are clearly advancing the world towards the publically-announced NWO, can lead to certain conclusions.
The symptoms do exist, except there is no evidence of any "virus," "viral transmission," or a "pandemic." Germ Theory is indeed a fraud:
The symptoms started when the massive 5G installations took place in China and in Northern Italy. I still don't believe that the cause is only 5G, because there have been too many concurrent modes of poisonings (radiation, toxins, parasites, and pathogens) that may have contributed to the symptoms.
Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic drug (not an "insecticide") and malaria, for one, was certainly cound in some of the "covid" vials. Consequently, it occasionally works.
So, if all elements of the public discourse were dumped, what would remain to discuss and explain the causes of the symptoms?
Good work! The only thing i would have done differently here is the "2. There is no virus." I would have instead said "There is no proof of a virus." A negative cannot be proven. I know, semantics, but words can hurt you if used imprecisely. I am surprised to hear that you're encountering a bunch of people who don't think there is a proven virus and yet believe in a bioweapon. I know of just a couple like what.
late 14c., "poisonous substance" from Latin virus "poison, sap of PLANTS, slimy liquid, a potent juice," from Proto-Italic *weis-o-(s-) "poison," which is probably from a PIE root *ueis-, perhaps originally meaning "to melt away, to flow," used of foul or malodorous fluids, but with specialization in some languages to "poisonous fluid" (source also of Sanskrit visam "VENOM, poison," visah "poisonous;" Avestan vish- "poison;" Latin viscum "sticky substance, birdlime;" Greek ios "poison," ixos "mistletoe, birdlime;" Old Church Slavonic višnja "cherry;" Old Irish fi "poison;" Welsh gwy "poison").
VIRUS (among Physicians) a kind of watery stinking Matter, which issues out of Ulcers, being endued with eating and malignant Qualities. [Bailey's dictionary, 1770]
virulent (adj.)
c. 1400, in reference to wounds, ulcers, etc., "full of corrupt or poisonous matter," from Latin virulentus "poisonous," from virus "poison" (see virus). Figurative sense of "violent, spiteful" is attested from c. 1600. Related: Virulently.
virulence (n.)
1660s, from Late Latin virulentia, from Latin virulentus "full of poison" (see virulent). Related: Virulency (1610s).
The study of viruses, instead of being called "virology," is called TOXINOLOGY:
1.(MeSH)The science concerned with the detection, chemical composition, and biological action of toxic substances or poisons and the treatment and prevention of toxic manifestations.;The science concerned with the toxins produced by BACTERIA, PLANTS, AND ANIMALS.
Toxinology is the specialized area of science that deals specifically with animal, plant, and microbial toxins. Prof. Dietrich Mebs has defined toxinology as "the scientific discipline dealing with microbial, plant and animal venoms, poisons and toxins".
Toxins and toxinology is not solely focussed on adverse effects. An increasing number of toxins are important as RESEARCH tools, unlocking secrets of disease, or as diagnostic agents in hospital laboratories, or as therapeutic agents to treat human disease, including anti-cancer agents, anti-epileptic agents, anti-clotting agents, analgesics, anti-hypertensive drugs, TO NAME BUT A FEW. This is a very rich field for RESEARCH.
A poisonous substance, especially a protein, that is produced by living cells or organisms and is capable of causing disease when introduced into the body tissues but is often also capable of inducing neutralizing antibodies or antitoxins.
A poisonous or harmful nonbiological substance, such as a pollutant.
Any of various similar poisons, related to proteins, formed in certain plants, as ricin, or secreted by certain animals, as snake venom: toxins, when injected into animals or humans, typically initiate the formation of antitoxins.
Any of various poisonous compounds produced by some microorganisms and causing certain diseases.
toxin (n.)
"organic poison," especially one produced by bacteria in an animal body, 1886, from toxic + -in (2).
poison (n.)
c. 1200, poisoun, "a deadly potion or substance," also figuratively, "spiritually corrupting ideas; evil intentions," from Old French poison, puison (12c., Modern French poison) "a drink," especially a medical drink, later "a (magic) potion, poisonous drink" (14c.), from Latin potionem (nominative potio) "a drinking, a drink," also "poisonous drink" (Cicero), from potare "to drink" (from PIE root *po(i)- "to drink").
vaccine (n.)
"matter [INGREDIENTS] used in vaccination," 1846, from French vaccin, noun use of adjective, from Latin vaccina, fem. of vaccinus "pertaining to a cow" (see vaccination). Related: Vaccinal; vaccinic.
As you can see, viruses do exist as harmful POISONOUS/VENOMOUS substances, NOT as pathogenic contagious microbes (that have never been isolated).
Nice work, as always! You can’t catch an imaginary virus
I want to believe there are no viruses. I think I’m sort of stuck in the middle. I see the logic and the arguments make sense. But I don’t know how to get out of what I “know” and live consistently with the idea. Like my vaccine, it has taken years and lots of research to change my position. Slowly I see what’s real and make changes. So I’ll keep reading and considering and being open minded.
At this point I am can say that I think the evidence is lacking for an entity Sars-Cov-2 as a viral pathogen, the stuff I have read and understood at any rate. I think that there is a difference between the phenomenon of contagion or the appearance of this phenomenon and if a particle exists or can be generated in the lab. Whatever structures virologists are making or cultivating in the lab might be real entities, but the properties of being infectious have not been established based on the papers I have read.
I am not sure contagion cannot exist, or that it does not exist, but the lab experiments haven't demonstrated it. I have been trained in the germ theory paradigm so maybe I'm biased still, but am trying to keep an open mind and not be closed from seeing other perspectives. Science should be about discovery and collaboration.
Excellent summary, thank you Bill :)
Wonderful article and references. I do concur with Ray Horvath that Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic, not an insecticide. Editing that statement would remove a point that people could point to and call your other data "wrong" as well. Sharing!
The official narrative is false and its terminology must not be used, because it confirms it even by the "opposition."
Still, aligning the history of the Rockefellerian "Medicine" with the last two years of new developments that are clearly advancing the world towards the publically-announced NWO, can lead to certain conclusions.
The symptoms do exist, except there is no evidence of any "virus," "viral transmission," or a "pandemic." Germ Theory is indeed a fraud:
https://viroliegy.com/
The symptoms started when the massive 5G installations took place in China and in Northern Italy. I still don't believe that the cause is only 5G, because there have been too many concurrent modes of poisonings (radiation, toxins, parasites, and pathogens) that may have contributed to the symptoms.
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/evidence-that-covid-symptoms-came
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-few-more-sources-of-poisoning
In a more sarcastic tone:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-leading-causes-of-death-dangerous
But it doesn't matter:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/who-is-right-and-who-is-wrong
Modern "Medicine" has been a fraud for 120 years:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-disaster-of-modern-medicine
Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic drug (not an "insecticide") and malaria, for one, was certainly cound in some of the "covid" vials. Consequently, it occasionally works.
So, if all elements of the public discourse were dumped, what would remain to discuss and explain the causes of the symptoms?
Good work! The only thing i would have done differently here is the "2. There is no virus." I would have instead said "There is no proof of a virus." A negative cannot be proven. I know, semantics, but words can hurt you if used imprecisely. I am surprised to hear that you're encountering a bunch of people who don't think there is a proven virus and yet believe in a bioweapon. I know of just a couple like what.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/virus
virus (n.)
late 14c., "poisonous substance" from Latin virus "poison, sap of PLANTS, slimy liquid, a potent juice," from Proto-Italic *weis-o-(s-) "poison," which is probably from a PIE root *ueis-, perhaps originally meaning "to melt away, to flow," used of foul or malodorous fluids, but with specialization in some languages to "poisonous fluid" (source also of Sanskrit visam "VENOM, poison," visah "poisonous;" Avestan vish- "poison;" Latin viscum "sticky substance, birdlime;" Greek ios "poison," ixos "mistletoe, birdlime;" Old Church Slavonic višnja "cherry;" Old Irish fi "poison;" Welsh gwy "poison").
VIRUS (among Physicians) a kind of watery stinking Matter, which issues out of Ulcers, being endued with eating and malignant Qualities. [Bailey's dictionary, 1770]
virulent (adj.)
c. 1400, in reference to wounds, ulcers, etc., "full of corrupt or poisonous matter," from Latin virulentus "poisonous," from virus "poison" (see virus). Figurative sense of "violent, spiteful" is attested from c. 1600. Related: Virulently.
virulence (n.)
1660s, from Late Latin virulentia, from Latin virulentus "full of poison" (see virulent). Related: Virulency (1610s).
The study of viruses, instead of being called "virology," is called TOXINOLOGY:
http://dictionary.sensagent.com/Toxinology/en-en/
Toxinology (n.)
1.(MeSH)The science concerned with the detection, chemical composition, and biological action of toxic substances or poisons and the treatment and prevention of toxic manifestations.;The science concerned with the toxins produced by BACTERIA, PLANTS, AND ANIMALS.
Toxinology is the specialized area of science that deals specifically with animal, plant, and microbial toxins. Prof. Dietrich Mebs has defined toxinology as "the scientific discipline dealing with microbial, plant and animal venoms, poisons and toxins".
Toxins and toxinology is not solely focussed on adverse effects. An increasing number of toxins are important as RESEARCH tools, unlocking secrets of disease, or as diagnostic agents in hospital laboratories, or as therapeutic agents to treat human disease, including anti-cancer agents, anti-epileptic agents, anti-clotting agents, analgesics, anti-hypertensive drugs, TO NAME BUT A FEW. This is a very rich field for RESEARCH.
https://www.yourdictionary.com/toxin:
A poisonous substance, especially a protein, that is produced by living cells or organisms and is capable of causing disease when introduced into the body tissues but is often also capable of inducing neutralizing antibodies or antitoxins.
A poisonous or harmful nonbiological substance, such as a pollutant.
Any of various similar poisons, related to proteins, formed in certain plants, as ricin, or secreted by certain animals, as snake venom: toxins, when injected into animals or humans, typically initiate the formation of antitoxins.
Any of various poisonous compounds produced by some microorganisms and causing certain diseases.
toxin (n.)
"organic poison," especially one produced by bacteria in an animal body, 1886, from toxic + -in (2).
poison (n.)
c. 1200, poisoun, "a deadly potion or substance," also figuratively, "spiritually corrupting ideas; evil intentions," from Old French poison, puison (12c., Modern French poison) "a drink," especially a medical drink, later "a (magic) potion, poisonous drink" (14c.), from Latin potionem (nominative potio) "a drinking, a drink," also "poisonous drink" (Cicero), from potare "to drink" (from PIE root *po(i)- "to drink").
vaccine (n.)
"matter [INGREDIENTS] used in vaccination," 1846, from French vaccin, noun use of adjective, from Latin vaccina, fem. of vaccinus "pertaining to a cow" (see vaccination). Related: Vaccinal; vaccinic.
As you can see, viruses do exist as harmful POISONOUS/VENOMOUS substances, NOT as pathogenic contagious microbes (that have never been isolated).