Hi Bill. This entire piece assumes the veracity of Seymour Hersh. He has done some great work in the past, starting in 1969 with breaking the story of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam by US troops (Lt Bill Calley commanding them). But his penchant for accuracy has been notable in its absence in more recent years. Here he is, with a 2015 book about the alleged killing of Osama bin Laden, completely buying the core official 9/11 story , i.e. this was an attack by 19 hijackers commanded by bin Laden upon the US. Still buying the utter nonsense, 14 years later.
> This entire piece assumes the veracity of Seymour Hersh.
Well, I would say that exactly. There are plenty of other confirming references to statements by Joe Biden, and Victoria Nuland, as well as expert commentary by Ray McGovern.
I think there are few people in the world who have on opinion of the matter who dount this was US sabotage. The Hersh piece just confirms what people already, instinctively, already knew.
"RAY MCGOVERN, RETIRED CIA OFFICER: It’s truly mind-boggling that the fawning corporate media, which is my term for the, quote, “mainstream media”, end-quote, has been able to avoid this story. After all, you have a principal advisor to President Bush accusing the head of CIA of dereliction of duty at the very least, and saying that had he done his job, 9/11 might have been prevented–at least, the plane might have been prevented from going into the Pentagon, which was the plane that these two al-Qaeda operatives were on. Now, Tenet knew that they were in-country for over a year but never [incompr.] to tell Clarke. Clarke makes the point that he was in receipt of just everything from Tenet, and that it would have taken personal intervention on the part of Tenet to prevent him from getting the normal dissemination of that information. It was not, as Clarke says, as I had already thought, says Clarke, that it was just one miscreant or one lazy analyst in the CIA who didn’t think to forward this on to the people who needed it. No, it was 50–five zero, says Clarke–and among them George Tenet. So in many respects it boils down to a contest between George Tenet, who in my view has zero credibility, and Richard Clarke, who in my view has a great deal of credibility. When Tenet, through his spokesman, says no, wait a second, we swore–we swore into oath on this, well, you know, that makes me laugh if it wasn’t so–if it was really funny. But under oath, Tenet perjured himself before the 9/11 Commission by saying that he wasn’t in touch with President Bush for the entire month of August, even by telephone. That was a lie, and later that evening one of his henchmen called the 9/11 Commission had said, oh, the director misspoke. When you swear under oath and then you don’t tell the truth, you don’t have any credibility left with me. And Clarke has a great deal of credibility. I haven’t caught him in any lies yet."
"Dedicates its work to what it calls a "national agenda." Wrote President Hoover's
program, President Roosevelt's "New Deal," the Kennedy Administration's "New
Frontiers" program (deviation from it cost John F. Kennedy his life), and President
Johnson's "Great Society." Brookings has been telling the United States Government how to conduct its affairs for the past 70 years and is still doing so on behalf of the Committee of 300."
These are flagrant Globalist operatives, I opine to throw everything they say into the garbage, then throw them in as well.
1. Are Putin and Biden etc on the same team making conflict and thus econ disaster as a pretext to usher in the One World Govt. or are they against each other?
2. Would Russia be expected to have tight water and air/satellite surveillance along the entire pipeline and not miss the attack or is it possible they don't have surveillance on that?
3. If it is a covert-op how can we know about it in a dozen weeks (we still don't have the definitive JFK leak after 60 years), or is the "leak" and article by Hersch part of war propaganda?
4. Do you think we should take Hersch at face value and is there some question about his affiliation with the NYT (which is a mainstream and controlled intel outlet) which might bring his credibility to question?
Related, is Simon Hersch of the NYT on the reference below on page 81 the same as Seymour or a misspelling?:
"Simon Hersh, a British intelligence agent working for the New York Times, which has been a British intelligence mouthpiece in the U.S. since the time that M16 boss, Sir William Stephenson, occupied the RCA building in New York." True, Seymour is American, but you can still be American and be a British Intel agent (cant find much about a "Simon" Hersch). In any case, the NYT is thought to be controlled by TPTB.
Also see Hersch's books even on his Wiki page to get an idea about him. Here, he pushes the Hijackers crashed planes into the WTC narrative (He's a "Hijacker pusher against the Bush Admin").
I don't trust that this guy writes things without a propaganda purpose.
5. Why do you think the US announced intent to attack if Russia invaded?, ie to drum up expectation of expanded conflict with Russia and thus econ disaster or just to put pressure on Putin? To me, threatening Putin directly doesn't seem like a great idea if he is really an enemy.
6. Importantly, is there any proof that the pipeline was blown up more than just an explosion at sea, or do we only have reports from the news, Hersch, and maybe Russian news?
I'm not saying I have all the answers, except to say I would not take the info by Hersch at face value without more data.
Excellent points. I just posted re a much later book Hersh wrote in 2015 *still* pushing the official 9/11 myth. ""Hijacker pusher against the Bush Admin" LOVE IT!
these are exaggerated views sort of seeking the find a needle in a haystack. most likely this was an act of nature or i wouldnt eliminate the possibility of an alien interference. the balloon in US is being blamed on chinese ... what about the other objects that keep showing up over US ??? the chinese rise by peaceful means ... free competition in peace!
"The Committee of 300 set up the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS). This is the vehicle for M16-Tavistock black propaganda which goes to the world's press for dissemination. The Mai Lai massacre story published by Seymour Hersh came straight out of IISS, just in case we wrongly suppose that men like Hersh do their own research work."
Another Tavistock operative Adorno wrote the Beatles Songs and others. Beatles or Hersch take your pick, you end up at the Tavistock Institute for black propaganda.
Hi Bill. This entire piece assumes the veracity of Seymour Hersh. He has done some great work in the past, starting in 1969 with breaking the story of the My Lai massacre in Vietnam by US troops (Lt Bill Calley commanding them). But his penchant for accuracy has been notable in its absence in more recent years. Here he is, with a 2015 book about the alleged killing of Osama bin Laden, completely buying the core official 9/11 story , i.e. this was an attack by 19 hijackers commanded by bin Laden upon the US. Still buying the utter nonsense, 14 years later.
https://qz.com/402375/one-question-seymour-hersh-never-answers-in-his-alt-history-of-the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden
> This entire piece assumes the veracity of Seymour Hersh.
Well, I would say that exactly. There are plenty of other confirming references to statements by Joe Biden, and Victoria Nuland, as well as expert commentary by Ray McGovern.
I think there are few people in the world who have on opinion of the matter who dount this was US sabotage. The Hersh piece just confirms what people already, instinctively, already knew.
Ray McGovern ALSO buys the official 9/11 story. This is from August 2021.
https://theanalysis.news/9-11-not-an-intelligence-failure/
"RAY MCGOVERN, RETIRED CIA OFFICER: It’s truly mind-boggling that the fawning corporate media, which is my term for the, quote, “mainstream media”, end-quote, has been able to avoid this story. After all, you have a principal advisor to President Bush accusing the head of CIA of dereliction of duty at the very least, and saying that had he done his job, 9/11 might have been prevented–at least, the plane might have been prevented from going into the Pentagon, which was the plane that these two al-Qaeda operatives were on. Now, Tenet knew that they were in-country for over a year but never [incompr.] to tell Clarke. Clarke makes the point that he was in receipt of just everything from Tenet, and that it would have taken personal intervention on the part of Tenet to prevent him from getting the normal dissemination of that information. It was not, as Clarke says, as I had already thought, says Clarke, that it was just one miscreant or one lazy analyst in the CIA who didn’t think to forward this on to the people who needed it. No, it was 50–five zero, says Clarke–and among them George Tenet. So in many respects it boils down to a contest between George Tenet, who in my view has zero credibility, and Richard Clarke, who in my view has a great deal of credibility. When Tenet, through his spokesman, says no, wait a second, we swore–we swore into oath on this, well, you know, that makes me laugh if it wasn’t so–if it was really funny. But under oath, Tenet perjured himself before the 9/11 Commission by saying that he wasn’t in touch with President Bush for the entire month of August, even by telephone. That was a lie, and later that evening one of his henchmen called the 9/11 Commission had said, oh, the director misspoke. When you swear under oath and then you don’t tell the truth, you don’t have any credibility left with me. And Clarke has a great deal of credibility. I haven’t caught him in any lies yet."
Good info. The whole pipeline thing stinks of a Globalist Operation.
Hey Bill, would like to know if the pipeline was actually blown up or damaged?
Biden says there is a virus, Nuland is married to Kagan, author of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century that was the Globalist propaganda to make 9.11 the New Pearl Harbor.
They are operatives of the Brookings Institute
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the-politico-50-robert-kagan-and-victoria-nuland/
From Coleman P. 151: BROOKINGS INSTITUTION
"Dedicates its work to what it calls a "national agenda." Wrote President Hoover's
program, President Roosevelt's "New Deal," the Kennedy Administration's "New
Frontiers" program (deviation from it cost John F. Kennedy his life), and President
Johnson's "Great Society." Brookings has been telling the United States Government how to conduct its affairs for the past 70 years and is still doing so on behalf of the Committee of 300."
These are flagrant Globalist operatives, I opine to throw everything they say into the garbage, then throw them in as well.
Hi Bill, let me ask your opinions:
1. Are Putin and Biden etc on the same team making conflict and thus econ disaster as a pretext to usher in the One World Govt. or are they against each other?
2. Would Russia be expected to have tight water and air/satellite surveillance along the entire pipeline and not miss the attack or is it possible they don't have surveillance on that?
3. If it is a covert-op how can we know about it in a dozen weeks (we still don't have the definitive JFK leak after 60 years), or is the "leak" and article by Hersch part of war propaganda?
4. Do you think we should take Hersch at face value and is there some question about his affiliation with the NYT (which is a mainstream and controlled intel outlet) which might bring his credibility to question?
Related, is Simon Hersch of the NYT on the reference below on page 81 the same as Seymour or a misspelling?:
"Simon Hersh, a British intelligence agent working for the New York Times, which has been a British intelligence mouthpiece in the U.S. since the time that M16 boss, Sir William Stephenson, occupied the RCA building in New York." True, Seymour is American, but you can still be American and be a British Intel agent (cant find much about a "Simon" Hersch). In any case, the NYT is thought to be controlled by TPTB.
Reference: https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/4A/4A92FD2FB4DAE3F773DB0B7742CF0F65_Coleman.-.CONSPIRATORS.HIERARCHY.-.THE.STORY.OF.THE.COMMITTEE.OF.300.R.pdf
Also see Hersch's books even on his Wiki page to get an idea about him. Here, he pushes the Hijackers crashed planes into the WTC narrative (He's a "Hijacker pusher against the Bush Admin").
https://www.amazon.com/Chain-Command-Road-Abu-Ghraib/dp/0060195916
I don't trust that this guy writes things without a propaganda purpose.
5. Why do you think the US announced intent to attack if Russia invaded?, ie to drum up expectation of expanded conflict with Russia and thus econ disaster or just to put pressure on Putin? To me, threatening Putin directly doesn't seem like a great idea if he is really an enemy.
6. Importantly, is there any proof that the pipeline was blown up more than just an explosion at sea, or do we only have reports from the news, Hersch, and maybe Russian news?
I'm not saying I have all the answers, except to say I would not take the info by Hersch at face value without more data.
Excellent points. I just posted re a much later book Hersh wrote in 2015 *still* pushing the official 9/11 myth. ""Hijacker pusher against the Bush Admin" LOVE IT!
these are exaggerated views sort of seeking the find a needle in a haystack. most likely this was an act of nature or i wouldnt eliminate the possibility of an alien interference. the balloon in US is being blamed on chinese ... what about the other objects that keep showing up over US ??? the chinese rise by peaceful means ... free competition in peace!
Sorry to add, Coleman P.135 (redacted):
"The Committee of 300 set up the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS). This is the vehicle for M16-Tavistock black propaganda which goes to the world's press for dissemination. The Mai Lai massacre story published by Seymour Hersh came straight out of IISS, just in case we wrongly suppose that men like Hersh do their own research work."
Another Tavistock operative Adorno wrote the Beatles Songs and others. Beatles or Hersch take your pick, you end up at the Tavistock Institute for black propaganda.